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tonight we have a real awesome

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show for y'all this evening

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the category for tonight

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man both man man that bad squash on and

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he's been following this reports

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or two after we do this week's shout

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what do you see we bring our guests down

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welcome to the iran paranormal universe

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uh before we jump into

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the whole chicago flying phantom mystery

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uh first the guests who may not know who

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phantoms and monsters which i've been

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received and quite popular

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the ground standing and uh

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how it's appearing uh the mechanism for

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something bad that's going to happen or

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have not embellished what they've seen

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well you just mentioned that a police

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before the show and he said this is

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recent development stuff that you like

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clearing house contacted me last night

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and he said he received the report so he

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wrote it up and sent it off to me

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and i'm going to go ahead and i'll just

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go ahead and read it uh and it actually

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it's a very amazing report it's one of

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the best we've had

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he said i'm going to tell you about

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something that happened to me on the

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night of june 29th

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in chicago illinois i'm reporting this

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of my own volition and i'm wanting to

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stay anonymous due to the fact

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that i work for the chicago police

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i have been with the chicago police

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submitted this are my wife my son who

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encouraged me to submit this and my

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partner who is also was a witness to the

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i want you to know that i am of a sound

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mind in health and don't want any

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publicity other than just reporting this

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incident also want you to know i'm not

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pruned to fits of fantasy

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or hoaxing anything that i seen

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especially while i'm on duty

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on the night of june 29 2017

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at approximately 11 15 pm

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my partner and i were on routine patrol

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and approaching the intersection of west

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81st

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and south through

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street in

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in the auburn gresham neighborhood of

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chicago illinois we were flagged down by

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a group of people who were pointing up

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to the top of an apartment building that

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was on the corner

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we pulled over and they immediately

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started yelling

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telling us

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to look up at the building many of the

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people were very frightened and were

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very excited about seeing what they had

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seen

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my partner and i

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looked and see a large creature that was

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approximately six to six and a half feet

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tall

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and was very thin if it had been a human

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it would have been uh

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it would have been

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this thing was standing on top of the

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building

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and had what looked like a pair of very

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large wings

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that extended out at least eight to ten

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feet from tip to tip

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no discernible features it just looked

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like a dark black shadow with wings

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my partner and i both thought it was

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somebody trying to jump from the

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building and maybe wearing a costume of

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some time

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when we both shined our flashlights to

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try to get a better look at what we were

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dealing with

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this thing took off into the air and

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flew away

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southerly direction

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something sounding like a scream came

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from it and with a matter of five

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seconds this creature was gone into the

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night

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the people who initially flagged us down

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had said that many people in the

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neighborhood

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had seen this thing for the previous two

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nights

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and this just happened to be the only

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time that has been seen in a stationary

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place

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we stood there stunned as this thing

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flew away and disappeared into the night

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we stood there and talked to the group

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of people who flagged us down taking

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information down okay kevin for the

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grand prize of one million dollars what

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color is the white house um

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i know this i know this i know this

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um five seconds oh

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switching to geico could save you a

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bunch of money on car insurance

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okay

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judges

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that's true kevin you'll allow it

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congratulations you're a winner

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geico because saving 15 or more on car

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insurance is always a great answer and

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any information regarding previous

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settings from the nights before

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we initially were doubtful about

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following a report because we thought

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that would be made fun of for seeing a

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little green men

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we finally filed a report as we did not

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want to violate protocol

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nothing was ever said about the report

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being filed and as of right now it's

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been business as usual

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we wanted to file this report

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because after i told my son the story he

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went online and showed me that this is

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not the only setting of something

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similar being seen in the city

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i showed my partner the day after the

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sighting and he said he didn't want any

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want to be involved and as far as he was

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concerned it was nothing more than a

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large owl a big bird that was

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misidentified

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my son was the one who encouraged me to

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file this and do it anonymously to

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protect my identity

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i know what i saw was real

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and even though i have no explanation as

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to what it truly is i know

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that

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what i saw was flesh and blood

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i am a christian man who believes that

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there are things that come from other

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planes and stalk the people of this

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earth and that only one's faith is what

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protects us from these things

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i know that my faith is strong and

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therefore i am protected and i hope that

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i never see this thing again

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thank you very much for your time and

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have a blessed day

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now this is uh this is an amazing

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account

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but the best part is that you know now

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we have a supposedly have a police

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report in the system

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um now i took some if you go on the on

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the blog i after i posted that i had

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some images

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of the intersection during the day but

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in the direction

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of where this thing flew off the

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buildings you can see are no more than

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two or three stories high

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so uh

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they got a pretty good look at it and uh

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some remarkable

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aspects to this report

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are of course that these were police

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officers

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who

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were flagged down by

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residents

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who were concerned

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and uh

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that the description was fairly similar

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to what the other ones we had

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and

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you know they were confronted but they

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they had no idea what it was

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so uh

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hopefully you know

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this is going to be the last time

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we have either a police officer or

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somebody who works for the city contact

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us uh you know

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the fact that

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these are people with credibility

448
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and her use of seeing strange things

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even though they probably wouldn't admit

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to it all the time

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uh is a major factor in this case and uh

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you know it it like i said before it

453
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well we got a whole bunch of questions

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coming on

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so uh

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let's throw up a couple of them

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all right

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give me one

459
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there we go

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okay so we have four questions for you

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from the chat room

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first question

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for the guests

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how much are these modern sightings

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related to the medieval legends of

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well there have been some descriptions

467
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of this uh others being

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where people said that it kind of

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reminded them of gargoyles

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uh

471
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i had been involved with sightings of

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gargoyle-like beings over the years

473
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especially in pennsylvania

474
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if there's a is a relation to it i don't

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know if you think a gargoyle is uh

476
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an extra dimensional being

477
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and not on this earth i think you're

478
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yeah that sounds about right

479
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okay so the next question we have for

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you

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is there any way to stop it from is

482
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there any way to stop it from starting

483
00:20:02,310 --> 00:20:00,070
i i don't understand what you mean is

484
00:20:05,190 --> 00:20:02,320
there any way to stop to prevent these

485
00:20:07,110 --> 00:20:05,200
sightings from occurring

486
00:20:09,190 --> 00:20:07,120
oh well if it is i haven't been able to

487
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figure that out yet i don't know

488
00:20:12,950 --> 00:20:11,200
no i i mean i don't i don't know i mean

489
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you know it's been

490
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well the third

491
00:20:17,750 --> 00:20:16,000
june 30th has been actually been the

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00:20:20,630 --> 00:20:17,760
last sighting

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00:20:22,950 --> 00:20:20,640
uh that's been reported but you know i

494
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just because the fact that

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you know

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chicago has got 3 million residents and

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a lot of times

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this thing is being seen by many people

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one time

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uh we know there are many more people

501
00:20:37,029 --> 00:20:35,440
seeing it's just the fact that they have

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been reporting it or don't know how to

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report it

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so um you know it's been like i said

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it's been two weeks since last sighting

506
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but we've had that

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we've had

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uh periods of time where it wasn't seen

509
00:20:53,669 --> 00:20:51,679
before as well so

510
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you know it may pick up again who knows

511
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i mean

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is this a harbinger or something i i

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so the next question does the number of

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sightings in chicago have anything to do

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with the crime and murder rate in

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chicago

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people have suggested it may um

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i know the murder rate in chicago in

519
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2016

520
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had almost doubled as compared to the

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two previous years

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uh

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but this would be you know this happened

524
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before

525
00:21:32,310 --> 00:21:30,880
the sightings began now

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because it has something to do with the

527
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current crime in chicago i i don't know

528
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i i wouldn't have any way of knowing

529
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that

530
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and the fourth question from chat is

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have you come across any reports of

532
00:21:49,830 --> 00:21:47,120
associated high strangeness with these

533
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owl man sightings such as in the events

534
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preceding the collapse of the silver

535
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bridge

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and point pleasant

537
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well point pleasure is probably the most

538
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well-known

539
00:22:03,190 --> 00:22:00,480
uh

540
00:22:04,549 --> 00:22:03,200
disaster that people associate with the

541
00:22:05,510 --> 00:22:04,559
mothman

542
00:22:08,870 --> 00:22:05,520
but

543
00:22:11,270 --> 00:22:08,880
there have been others in the past

544
00:22:13,750 --> 00:22:11,280
people swore that the bridge that

545
00:22:14,950 --> 00:22:13,760
collapsed in minneapolis several years

546
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ago

547
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that they some people had seen a similar

548
00:22:20,870 --> 00:22:19,039
type being

549
00:22:22,950 --> 00:22:20,880
uh

550
00:22:24,830 --> 00:22:22,960
in the area though we'd never received

551
00:22:27,750 --> 00:22:24,840
any reports prior to the bridge

552
00:22:29,430 --> 00:22:27,760
collapsing uh the same happened in

553
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chernobyl

554
00:22:34,230 --> 00:22:32,480
and as well as fukushima during the

555
00:22:36,710 --> 00:22:34,240
tsunami

556
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people you know afterwards mentioned

557
00:22:41,270 --> 00:22:38,720
that they had seen something

558
00:22:42,310 --> 00:22:41,280
now i don't know how true that is

559
00:22:43,750 --> 00:22:42,320
um

560
00:22:46,470 --> 00:22:43,760
there have other have been other

561
00:22:49,190 --> 00:22:46,480
instances in the past

562
00:22:51,510 --> 00:22:49,200
uh small instances personal incidents

563
00:22:55,430 --> 00:22:51,520
where people have seen these things

564
00:22:57,830 --> 00:22:55,440
who have reported to me uh in particular

565
00:23:01,029 --> 00:22:57,840
i know one woman

566
00:23:03,350 --> 00:23:01,039
who was actually near point pleasant

567
00:23:04,470 --> 00:23:03,360
several years ago she was on a business

568
00:23:07,110 --> 00:23:04,480
trip

569
00:23:08,470 --> 00:23:07,120
and she had seen she was in her hotel

570
00:23:09,909 --> 00:23:08,480
room and seen

571
00:23:11,270 --> 00:23:09,919
something similar to this out in the

572
00:23:13,350 --> 00:23:11,280
parking lot

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00:23:15,270 --> 00:23:13,360
of the hotel

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and

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00:23:19,510 --> 00:23:18,159
thought it had gotten into the

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00:23:21,590 --> 00:23:19,520
building

577
00:23:24,230 --> 00:23:21,600
because she heard some strange things

578
00:23:25,430 --> 00:23:24,240
out in the hallway that evening

579
00:23:27,750 --> 00:23:25,440
and

580
00:23:31,350 --> 00:23:27,760
she later

581
00:23:33,909 --> 00:23:31,360
suffered several medical issues and such

582
00:23:34,830 --> 00:23:33,919
and in fact you know with this sighting

583
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in

584
00:23:39,909 --> 00:23:37,039
particular uh

585
00:23:42,470 --> 00:23:39,919
back on the 22nd of march we in one of

586
00:23:44,549 --> 00:23:42,480
our when our reports a gentleman by the

587
00:23:45,750 --> 00:23:44,559
name of billy bance he uh was a truck

588
00:23:47,990 --> 00:23:45,760
driver

589
00:23:49,669 --> 00:23:48,000
and he saw something

590
00:23:52,070 --> 00:23:49,679
similar to this

591
00:23:54,390 --> 00:23:52,080
in the area of cicero

592
00:23:56,710 --> 00:23:54,400
which is just west

593
00:23:57,909 --> 00:23:56,720
of chicago but it's still in chicago

594
00:23:59,669 --> 00:23:57,919
limits

595
00:24:03,029 --> 00:23:59,679
and uh

596
00:24:04,470 --> 00:24:03,039
he has suffered several

597
00:24:05,750 --> 00:24:04,480
medical issues

598
00:24:07,990 --> 00:24:05,760
particularly

599
00:24:09,190 --> 00:24:08,000
involving his eyes and eyesight and

600
00:24:11,350 --> 00:24:09,200
brain

601
00:24:14,710 --> 00:24:11,360
since those sightings coming into this

602
00:24:16,070 --> 00:24:14,720
week i was thinking well you know

603
00:24:17,350 --> 00:24:16,080
there's always a possibility it could be

604
00:24:21,510 --> 00:24:17,360
like a drone

605
00:24:23,190 --> 00:24:21,520
or a flying suit you know some some

606
00:24:25,269 --> 00:24:23,200
you know uh

607
00:24:27,990 --> 00:24:25,279
underground company is testing or

608
00:24:32,390 --> 00:24:31,029
with with the last report you

609
00:24:34,310 --> 00:24:32,400
you read

610
00:24:36,549 --> 00:24:34,320
one thing i noticed is that it was this

611
00:24:38,070 --> 00:24:36,559
time it wasn't just flying but that it

612
00:24:41,430 --> 00:24:38,080
was actually

613
00:24:44,230 --> 00:24:41,440
like perched or not perched but but

614
00:24:47,510 --> 00:24:44,240
on something yeah

615
00:24:50,070 --> 00:24:47,520
and the other thing too that uh

616
00:24:52,310 --> 00:24:50,080
we noticed that there was uh

617
00:24:53,430 --> 00:24:52,320
one report that claimed two of these

618
00:24:55,590 --> 00:24:53,440
creatures

619
00:24:56,950 --> 00:24:55,600
were spotted flying around each other in

620
00:24:58,950 --> 00:24:56,960
circles

621
00:25:01,110 --> 00:24:58,960
uh which brings us to the question

622
00:25:02,549 --> 00:25:01,120
that one report alone besides that one

623
00:25:03,750 --> 00:25:02,559
report are all the other reports

624
00:25:06,549 --> 00:25:03,760
singular

625
00:25:11,269 --> 00:25:06,559
and would one report be enough to

626
00:25:18,789 --> 00:25:15,990
um opposed to i don't know

627
00:25:22,950 --> 00:25:21,990
was it not i guess

628
00:25:24,789 --> 00:25:22,960
well

629
00:25:26,830 --> 00:25:24,799
i you know there has only been the one

630
00:25:30,470 --> 00:25:26,840
multiple sighting

631
00:25:34,149 --> 00:25:30,480
um but that same day there was another

632
00:25:35,029 --> 00:25:34,159
setting as well nearby this was um

633
00:25:38,549 --> 00:25:35,039
just

634
00:25:40,710 --> 00:25:38,559
outside of downtown in the lake area

635
00:25:42,630 --> 00:25:40,720
and the other siding was actually along

636
00:25:45,269 --> 00:25:42,640
the river in downtown

637
00:25:47,669 --> 00:25:45,279
uh now that other setting only had one

638
00:25:50,070 --> 00:25:47,679
there was only one of these beings

639
00:25:51,909 --> 00:25:50,080
as far as a breeding population i you

640
00:25:54,870 --> 00:25:51,919
know i don't think there's

641
00:25:58,630 --> 00:25:54,880
i don't i don't think that these

642
00:26:00,310 --> 00:25:58,640
these flying humanoids are of this world

643
00:26:01,830 --> 00:26:00,320
they may actually be flesh and blood i

644
00:26:03,669 --> 00:26:01,840
believe they are flesh and blood but i

645
00:26:07,830 --> 00:26:03,679
do i don't think

646
00:26:10,870 --> 00:26:07,840
that they are residing in the area

647
00:26:13,190 --> 00:26:10,880
they're coming in and out somehow um

648
00:26:16,310 --> 00:26:13,200
there has been one part

649
00:26:19,750 --> 00:26:16,320
of the city in particular where

650
00:26:22,310 --> 00:26:19,760
it does seem to manifest itself

651
00:26:23,510 --> 00:26:22,320
which is the uh the bridge that goes

652
00:26:27,269 --> 00:26:23,520
across

653
00:26:31,590 --> 00:26:29,750
over the chicago river downtown there

654
00:26:34,149 --> 00:26:31,600
have been several settings

655
00:26:36,310 --> 00:26:34,159
that actually seem to manifest from that

656
00:26:40,070 --> 00:26:36,320
area

657
00:26:43,750 --> 00:26:41,990
but of course we've had sidings all over

658
00:26:45,669 --> 00:26:43,760
the city

659
00:26:48,149 --> 00:26:45,679
uh it just hasn't been on the lakefront

660
00:26:49,909 --> 00:26:48,159
this last sighting was actually in south

661
00:26:51,430 --> 00:26:49,919
the south side

662
00:26:53,750 --> 00:26:51,440
and we've had other sightings in the

663
00:26:56,230 --> 00:26:53,760
south side in fact we've had studies

664
00:27:00,950 --> 00:26:56,240
further south of that just to decide the

665
00:27:06,070 --> 00:27:03,990
um like looking at the map it's they're

666
00:27:08,470 --> 00:27:06,080
citing it all throughout the chicagoland

667
00:27:10,710 --> 00:27:08,480
area which is right well chicago's 3

668
00:27:11,669 --> 00:27:10,720
million right but chicago land is like 8

669
00:27:13,830 --> 00:27:11,679
million

670
00:27:16,070 --> 00:27:13,840
right and looking like let's see number

671
00:27:18,549 --> 00:27:16,080
12 and number eight yeah i can't get

672
00:27:20,950 --> 00:27:18,559
over the many areas of all those

673
00:27:23,510 --> 00:27:20,960
clusters of sightings it's just it's wow

674
00:27:25,990 --> 00:27:23,520
it's mind-blowing

675
00:27:29,190 --> 00:27:26,000
yeah it is it is interesting and

676
00:27:32,310 --> 00:27:30,789
generally

677
00:27:33,669 --> 00:27:32,320
i'm of

678
00:27:35,590 --> 00:27:33,679
i feel

679
00:27:37,830 --> 00:27:35,600
of the same way like you know when i

680
00:27:39,909 --> 00:27:37,840
hear of uh

681
00:27:43,750 --> 00:27:39,919
things flying around and red glowing

682
00:27:45,830 --> 00:27:43,760
eyes and and that kind of thing

683
00:27:47,430 --> 00:27:45,840
uh

684
00:27:48,950 --> 00:27:47,440
yeah you gotta ask that question you

685
00:27:51,430 --> 00:27:48,960
know is it is there some kind of

686
00:27:52,470 --> 00:27:51,440
interdimensional or demonic

687
00:27:54,710 --> 00:27:52,480
kind of

688
00:27:57,269 --> 00:27:54,720
something going on with it especially if

689
00:27:58,470 --> 00:27:57,279
we're not seeing breeding populations or

690
00:28:00,630 --> 00:27:58,480
we're not seeing the things that would

691
00:28:04,549 --> 00:28:00,640
indicate that this is just a zoological

692
00:28:06,149 --> 00:28:04,559
creature opposed to like you said if if

693
00:28:08,070 --> 00:28:06,159
you know we have things like cern going

694
00:28:11,029 --> 00:28:08,080
on and all you know a bunch of different

695
00:28:14,470 --> 00:28:11,039
kind of stuff who knows you know uh what

696
00:28:17,190 --> 00:28:14,480
could be pulled through at what for what

697
00:28:18,310 --> 00:28:17,200
you know stranger things have happened

698
00:28:20,230 --> 00:28:18,320
so

699
00:28:22,470 --> 00:28:20,240
well we have been looking into the

700
00:28:24,070 --> 00:28:22,480
certain facility outside of chicago and

701
00:28:25,269 --> 00:28:24,080
um

702
00:28:27,110 --> 00:28:25,279
you know there very well may be

703
00:28:29,110 --> 00:28:27,120
something to that

704
00:28:31,430 --> 00:28:29,120
uh that facility i believe has actually

705
00:28:34,230 --> 00:28:31,440
been there about 40 years now

706
00:28:36,549 --> 00:28:34,240
and uh

707
00:28:39,830 --> 00:28:36,559
you know is this thing opening up

708
00:28:41,269 --> 00:28:39,840
portals or doorways to another dimension

709
00:28:43,510 --> 00:28:41,279
it's possible

710
00:28:46,310 --> 00:28:43,520
i uh you know but

711
00:28:48,149 --> 00:28:46,320
i i do believe that there are portals in

712
00:28:50,870 --> 00:28:48,159
a lot of different places i mean they

713
00:28:53,029 --> 00:28:50,880
may not there may be different sizes of

714
00:28:54,070 --> 00:28:53,039
portals here and there in fact

715
00:28:56,389 --> 00:28:54,080
the uh

716
00:28:59,350 --> 00:28:56,399
lake michigan

717
00:29:01,750 --> 00:28:59,360
has had a lot of phenomena

718
00:29:03,269 --> 00:29:01,760
over many years the michigan triangle in

719
00:29:04,750 --> 00:29:03,279
particular

720
00:29:07,750 --> 00:29:04,760
has had

721
00:29:10,310 --> 00:29:07,760
disappearances and strange

722
00:29:12,710 --> 00:29:10,320
anomalies take place

723
00:29:15,110 --> 00:29:12,720
uh in the the triangle

724
00:29:17,029 --> 00:29:15,120
there has been speculation

725
00:29:21,669 --> 00:29:17,039
that

726
00:29:23,669 --> 00:29:21,679
lake michigan

727
00:29:25,590 --> 00:29:23,679
and

728
00:29:28,230 --> 00:29:25,600
mainly for the fact that there have been

729
00:29:30,630 --> 00:29:28,240
a lot of green orb sightings

730
00:29:32,549 --> 00:29:30,640
on the water surface

731
00:29:36,149 --> 00:29:32,559
and just flying above the water surface

732
00:29:42,070 --> 00:29:38,470
we had one sighting

733
00:29:43,110 --> 00:29:42,080
of this being uh

734
00:29:44,070 --> 00:29:43,120
actually

735
00:29:47,110 --> 00:29:44,080
out

736
00:29:48,789 --> 00:29:47,120
half

737
00:29:50,789 --> 00:29:48,799
of montrose

738
00:29:52,070 --> 00:29:50,799
uh beach

739
00:29:56,149 --> 00:29:52,080
and

740
00:29:58,950 --> 00:29:56,159
the witness actually saw

741
00:30:01,590 --> 00:29:58,960
a green orb

742
00:30:04,870 --> 00:30:01,600
going across the horizon

743
00:30:07,110 --> 00:30:04,880
right after she saw the um

744
00:30:09,590 --> 00:30:07,120
the flying humanoid so you know it's

745
00:30:11,510 --> 00:30:09,600
related i don't know but i you know

746
00:30:13,510 --> 00:30:11,520
there have been there have been a lot of

747
00:30:16,549 --> 00:30:13,520
strange anomalies so far

748
00:30:18,310 --> 00:30:16,559
uh in fact down south of chicago in

749
00:30:20,950 --> 00:30:18,320
chicago heights area

750
00:30:23,590 --> 00:30:20,960
and a few other places nearby there have

751
00:30:24,470 --> 00:30:23,600
been people that have noticed flashes of

752
00:30:25,909 --> 00:30:24,480
light

753
00:30:27,990 --> 00:30:25,919
at night

754
00:30:29,830 --> 00:30:28,000
uh they have no idea where it's coming

755
00:30:32,389 --> 00:30:29,840
you're listening to love advice with

756
00:30:34,470 --> 00:30:32,399
leanne caller you're on the air uh hi

757
00:30:35,510 --> 00:30:34,480
leanne long time listener first time

758
00:30:37,430 --> 00:30:35,520
caller

759
00:30:39,590 --> 00:30:37,440
why in your professional opinion do you

760
00:30:40,710 --> 00:30:39,600
never take my calls off the air is this

761
00:30:45,350 --> 00:30:40,720
carl

762
00:30:46,710 --> 00:30:45,360
everything was great i thought uh well

763
00:30:48,549 --> 00:30:46,720
you know

764
00:30:50,549 --> 00:30:48,559
when you switched to geico you could

765
00:30:53,269 --> 00:30:50,559
save a lot of money on car insurance

766
00:30:55,750 --> 00:30:53,279
okay awesome you should call them i will

767
00:30:57,669 --> 00:30:55,760
geico because saving 15 or more on car

768
00:31:00,149 --> 00:30:57,679
insurance is always the great answer

769
00:31:03,190 --> 00:31:00,159
coming from but they have noticed it

770
00:31:05,990 --> 00:31:03,200
i've received three reports

771
00:31:07,430 --> 00:31:06,000
census has been happening so is that

772
00:31:08,710 --> 00:31:07,440
associated with what's going on i have

773
00:31:11,190 --> 00:31:08,720
no idea

774
00:31:12,230 --> 00:31:11,200
until we can uh you know find some type

775
00:31:15,830 --> 00:31:12,240
of uh

776
00:31:17,990 --> 00:31:15,840
connection between these anomalies and

777
00:31:20,549 --> 00:31:18,000
and these flying humanoids and i really

778
00:31:22,710 --> 00:31:20,559
can't say what's going on

779
00:31:24,470 --> 00:31:22,720
okay everybody with that it is time for

780
00:31:27,110 --> 00:31:24,480
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781
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784
00:31:37,350 --> 00:31:36,159
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785
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786
00:31:42,870 --> 00:31:39,840
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787
00:31:44,789 --> 00:31:42,880
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788
00:31:46,630 --> 00:31:44,799
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789
00:31:48,630 --> 00:31:46,640
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795
00:32:00,549 --> 00:31:57,840
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797
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798
00:32:06,789 --> 00:32:04,720
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799
00:32:08,630 --> 00:32:06,799
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800
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807
00:32:24,230 --> 00:32:22,159
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808
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809
00:32:27,509 --> 00:32:25,840
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810
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811
00:32:30,630 --> 00:32:28,720
noting

812
00:32:32,149 --> 00:32:30,640
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813
00:32:34,070 --> 00:32:32,159
group page of facebook for aquatic

814
00:32:36,149 --> 00:32:34,080
mysteries and lake monsters

815
00:32:38,789 --> 00:32:36,159
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816
00:32:41,350 --> 00:32:38,799
is pretty self-explanatory

817
00:32:43,190 --> 00:32:41,360
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818
00:32:45,430 --> 00:32:43,200
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819
00:32:48,149 --> 00:32:45,440
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820
00:32:50,389 --> 00:32:48,159
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821
00:32:52,149 --> 00:32:50,399
post questions and comments

822
00:32:54,310 --> 00:32:52,159
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823
00:32:58,710 --> 00:32:54,320
next week

824
00:33:00,789 --> 00:32:58,720
is the 2017 champ expedition update

825
00:33:03,029 --> 00:33:00,799
with william

826
00:33:04,950 --> 00:33:03,039
i always get the last name wrong

827
00:33:07,909 --> 00:33:04,960
durang

828
00:33:09,909 --> 00:33:07,919
dragon assist and scott marty's i'm

829
00:33:11,590 --> 00:33:09,919
sorry i butchered that name

830
00:33:13,830 --> 00:33:11,600
i do that

831
00:33:15,830 --> 00:33:13,840
i apologize

832
00:33:17,909 --> 00:33:15,840
anyways so yeah looking forward to that

833
00:33:18,789 --> 00:33:17,919
because they went out and they did some

834
00:33:21,110 --> 00:33:18,799
uh

835
00:33:23,350 --> 00:33:21,120
some expedition research and they have

836
00:33:25,430 --> 00:33:23,360
some stuff they're excited to talk about

837
00:33:26,789 --> 00:33:25,440
and we are excited for what they have to

838
00:33:27,750 --> 00:33:26,799
say

839
00:33:29,350 --> 00:33:27,760
so

840
00:33:32,230 --> 00:33:29,360
having said that

841
00:33:33,830 --> 00:33:32,240
why don't we bring one back up

842
00:33:36,950 --> 00:33:33,840
are you with us still on

843
00:33:36,960 --> 00:33:39,110
you am

844
00:33:42,789 --> 00:33:40,470
do we have any

845
00:33:44,630 --> 00:33:42,799
questions in chat before we jump back

846
00:33:45,590 --> 00:33:44,640
yes we do actually

847
00:33:48,230 --> 00:33:45,600
um

848
00:33:51,190 --> 00:33:48,240
have there actually been any pictures

849
00:33:52,549 --> 00:33:51,200
taken of this of this sighting of this

850
00:33:55,110 --> 00:33:52,559
owl man or

851
00:34:00,070 --> 00:33:57,430
uh the only picture that we have was

852
00:34:01,830 --> 00:34:00,080
from 2011

853
00:34:04,630 --> 00:34:01,840
and uh

854
00:34:09,109 --> 00:34:04,640
but the recent sightings know we haven't

855
00:34:13,669 --> 00:34:09,829
the

856
00:34:15,990 --> 00:34:13,679
witnesses are

857
00:34:17,829 --> 00:34:16,000
it's either too dark or this thing is

858
00:34:20,389 --> 00:34:17,839
too fast

859
00:34:22,869 --> 00:34:20,399
or they do try to take a picture and it

860
00:34:25,109 --> 00:34:22,879
just doesn't come out right

861
00:34:27,589 --> 00:34:25,119
um

862
00:34:30,149 --> 00:34:27,599
you know that it's

863
00:34:32,829 --> 00:34:30,159
you know camera phones are great but

864
00:34:37,109 --> 00:34:32,839
they don't or always take the greatest

865
00:34:42,069 --> 00:34:39,270
you know this this thing does show up a

866
00:34:45,349 --> 00:34:42,079
lot in dark areas

867
00:34:47,909 --> 00:34:45,359
and we just have not been able to get

868
00:34:50,389 --> 00:34:47,919
get a photo yet we've gotten sketches

869
00:34:53,510 --> 00:34:50,399
but we haven't gotten any photos

870
00:34:56,389 --> 00:34:53,520
does anyone have any ideas as to why it

871
00:34:58,069 --> 00:34:56,399
might be around is there i mean okay

872
00:34:58,870 --> 00:34:58,079
we can either assume that it's like some

873
00:35:06,390 --> 00:34:58,880
kind of

874
00:35:09,349 --> 00:35:06,400
uh or it it's something else and there's

875
00:35:12,390 --> 00:35:09,359
a reason that it's it's present

876
00:35:14,069 --> 00:35:12,400
um is there any speculation

877
00:35:15,510 --> 00:35:14,079
have anybody

878
00:35:18,710 --> 00:35:15,520
is there any correlations like i don't

879
00:35:21,430 --> 00:35:18,720
know anything in the vicinity that's the

880
00:35:23,349 --> 00:35:21,440
lines up or

881
00:35:25,750 --> 00:35:23,359
has there been anything yeah we we've

882
00:35:27,270 --> 00:35:25,760
tried to check the locations and

883
00:35:30,310 --> 00:35:27,280
descriptions

884
00:35:32,950 --> 00:35:30,320
to see if there was any uh correlation

885
00:35:34,230 --> 00:35:32,960
and we just haven't been able to do that

886
00:35:36,950 --> 00:35:34,240
now i've got

887
00:35:38,470 --> 00:35:36,960
it's myself emmanuel and and several

888
00:35:40,950 --> 00:35:38,480
other people who

889
00:35:44,390 --> 00:35:40,960
live in the city who are

890
00:35:45,990 --> 00:35:44,400
investigators who are helping us out

891
00:35:49,030 --> 00:35:46,000
and uh

892
00:35:54,470 --> 00:35:49,040
we we just really have not come up

893
00:35:56,790 --> 00:35:54,480
with any any type of pattern that

894
00:35:58,630 --> 00:35:56,800
gives us any clues as to why it's

895
00:36:00,630 --> 00:35:58,640
showing up i don't believe it's

896
00:36:03,430 --> 00:36:00,640
malevolent

897
00:36:05,270 --> 00:36:03,440
uh it hasn't attacked anybody

898
00:36:06,230 --> 00:36:05,280
it sure scared a lot of people but it

899
00:36:09,990 --> 00:36:06,240
hasn't

900
00:36:12,790 --> 00:36:10,000
attacked anybody several people

901
00:36:15,829 --> 00:36:12,800
in fact most of the witnesses

902
00:36:17,190 --> 00:36:15,839
have experienced some type of uh

903
00:36:22,150 --> 00:36:17,200
fear

904
00:36:23,910 --> 00:36:22,160
or uh foreboding after seeing this being

905
00:36:26,310 --> 00:36:23,920
um

906
00:36:28,230 --> 00:36:26,320
there's a lot of hesitation well as in

907
00:36:30,390 --> 00:36:28,240
most cryptic sightings

908
00:36:32,630 --> 00:36:30,400
for reporting

909
00:36:34,790 --> 00:36:32,640
but some people actually felt compelled

910
00:36:37,990 --> 00:36:34,800
that they needed to report it

911
00:36:38,950 --> 00:36:38,000
uh one interesting aspect to this last

912
00:36:41,109 --> 00:36:38,960
sighting

913
00:36:43,750 --> 00:36:41,119
that we haven't really res i don't think

914
00:36:47,190 --> 00:36:43,760
we received another one like it

915
00:36:48,550 --> 00:36:47,200
was this thing actually screened

916
00:36:50,950 --> 00:36:48,560
um

917
00:36:53,589 --> 00:36:50,960
it made some type of sound you had

918
00:36:54,550 --> 00:36:53,599
mentioned earlier about our earlier

919
00:36:56,150 --> 00:36:54,560
about

920
00:36:57,750 --> 00:36:56,160
people seeing this thing standing

921
00:37:00,870 --> 00:36:57,760
stationary

922
00:37:03,349 --> 00:37:00,880
uh the recent reports

923
00:37:06,069 --> 00:37:03,359
there have been

924
00:37:09,109 --> 00:37:06,079
four instances of this happening

925
00:37:12,230 --> 00:37:09,119
where it's actually being seen perched

926
00:37:14,870 --> 00:37:12,240
on something and and watching

927
00:37:16,790 --> 00:37:14,880
so yeah i mean it's been seen

928
00:37:19,349 --> 00:37:16,800
stationary are still

929
00:37:22,790 --> 00:37:19,359
perching and then flying so um

930
00:37:25,190 --> 00:37:22,800
but as far as why you know they're in

931
00:37:26,870 --> 00:37:25,200
you know any reason why i i can't come

932
00:37:29,510 --> 00:37:26,880
up with anything yet

933
00:37:31,270 --> 00:37:29,520
at this point it seems that uh

934
00:37:32,870 --> 00:37:31,280
enough people have seen this and enough

935
00:37:34,870 --> 00:37:32,880
people feel that this is a

936
00:37:37,510 --> 00:37:34,880
uh something real

937
00:37:40,470 --> 00:37:37,520
so we can rule out is it safe to rule

938
00:37:43,190 --> 00:37:40,480
out uh like drones you know people

939
00:37:44,790 --> 00:37:43,200
making drone creatures or

940
00:37:46,069 --> 00:37:44,800
uh

941
00:37:48,390 --> 00:37:46,079
that kind of thing

942
00:37:50,150 --> 00:37:48,400
i mean because coming into this there

943
00:37:53,030 --> 00:37:50,160
were so many different you know is is

944
00:37:55,990 --> 00:37:53,040
this an alien this uh drone is this uh a

945
00:37:58,710 --> 00:37:56,000
man in a some kind of flying suit um and

946
00:38:01,349 --> 00:37:58,720
then of course i got some um uh

947
00:38:03,589 --> 00:38:01,359
some other suits too them gliding suits

948
00:38:05,750 --> 00:38:03,599
although i don't uh

949
00:38:07,829 --> 00:38:05,760
i don't think that would be feasible

950
00:38:09,750 --> 00:38:07,839
because like you said especially if

951
00:38:11,670 --> 00:38:09,760
stationery then takes off that just

952
00:38:14,470 --> 00:38:11,680
totally disproves

953
00:38:17,589 --> 00:38:14,480
the flying suit thing

954
00:38:20,230 --> 00:38:17,599
well you know i i i've kind of dispelled

955
00:38:21,910 --> 00:38:20,240
the uh the drone or persons in a

956
00:38:24,550 --> 00:38:21,920
squirrel suit

957
00:38:27,349 --> 00:38:24,560
very early because

958
00:38:28,950 --> 00:38:27,359
uh some of the maneuvers that this thing

959
00:38:31,750 --> 00:38:28,960
has done

960
00:38:34,630 --> 00:38:31,760
uh the way it has moved its head

961
00:38:35,910 --> 00:38:34,640
and looked at people the the shining red

962
00:38:37,990 --> 00:38:35,920
eyes

963
00:38:39,750 --> 00:38:38,000
that have many many people have noticed

964
00:38:42,710 --> 00:38:39,760
um

965
00:38:43,829 --> 00:38:42,720
the flapping of the wings are this

966
00:38:47,510 --> 00:38:43,839
propel

967
00:38:50,150 --> 00:38:47,520
wings

968
00:38:51,910 --> 00:38:50,160
uh there's definitely a supernatural

969
00:38:52,710 --> 00:38:51,920
aspect to it

970
00:38:54,630 --> 00:38:52,720
but

971
00:38:55,510 --> 00:38:54,640
this thing

972
00:38:58,150 --> 00:38:55,520
is

973
00:38:59,750 --> 00:38:58,160
some type of flesh and blood being

974
00:39:02,630 --> 00:38:59,760
now

975
00:39:05,510 --> 00:39:02,640
few

976
00:39:07,589 --> 00:39:05,520
options of what you're dealing with

977
00:39:10,310 --> 00:39:07,599
but

978
00:39:11,829 --> 00:39:10,320
the fact that people claim that being a

979
00:39:14,150 --> 00:39:11,839
drone or a

980
00:39:15,190 --> 00:39:14,160
a person in a suit just doesn't make any

981
00:39:16,550 --> 00:39:15,200
sense

982
00:39:18,230 --> 00:39:16,560
uh

983
00:39:20,710 --> 00:39:18,240
they know they don't call chicago the

984
00:39:22,550 --> 00:39:20,720
windy city for nothing i mean this

985
00:39:26,069 --> 00:39:22,560
you know if you're you're flying between

986
00:39:29,430 --> 00:39:26,079
buildings and above the river downtown

987
00:39:31,670 --> 00:39:29,440
uh you're gonna find it uh a dead flying

988
00:39:32,870 --> 00:39:31,680
humanoid or a dead person fast you're

989
00:39:34,870 --> 00:39:32,880
gonna find one

990
00:39:36,710 --> 00:39:34,880
that's alive or see something that's

991
00:39:38,230 --> 00:39:36,720
going up and down over bridges under

992
00:39:40,870 --> 00:39:38,240
bridges

993
00:39:43,670 --> 00:39:40,880
without any effort

994
00:39:44,390 --> 00:39:43,680
uh the stunts that this thing has done

995
00:39:48,790 --> 00:39:44,400
or

996
00:39:50,550 --> 00:39:48,800
is literally impossible with a person in

997
00:39:52,550 --> 00:39:50,560
a suit or a drone

998
00:39:53,589 --> 00:39:52,560
this thing isn't flapping its wings is

999
00:39:58,230 --> 00:39:53,599
it

1000
00:39:59,990 --> 00:39:58,240
yeah yeah

1001
00:40:02,950 --> 00:40:00,000
i'm bad

1002
00:40:04,710 --> 00:40:02,960
a question for you from the chat room

1003
00:40:06,790 --> 00:40:04,720
is there any evidence

1004
00:40:11,829 --> 00:40:06,800
of these things interfering with

1005
00:40:16,710 --> 00:40:13,510
um

1006
00:40:18,710 --> 00:40:16,720
nothing that has been reported to us

1007
00:40:20,870 --> 00:40:18,720
there haven't been any electrical

1008
00:40:23,310 --> 00:40:20,880
anomalies or

1009
00:40:27,670 --> 00:40:23,320
magnetic

1010
00:40:28,710 --> 00:40:27,680
registered anyway

1011
00:40:30,710 --> 00:40:28,720
uh

1012
00:40:32,310 --> 00:40:30,720
i'm not saying it's not possible in fact

1013
00:40:34,390 --> 00:40:32,320
it could be possible

1014
00:40:36,470 --> 00:40:34,400
this may be some reason why people can't

1015
00:40:38,470 --> 00:40:36,480
take photographs

1016
00:40:40,550 --> 00:40:38,480
or um

1017
00:40:41,270 --> 00:40:40,560
you know i i don't know but i don't i

1018
00:40:43,430 --> 00:40:41,280
had

1019
00:40:45,589 --> 00:40:43,440
no none of that has been reported us so

1020
00:40:47,589 --> 00:40:45,599
far

1021
00:40:49,829 --> 00:40:47,599
i have another question for you

1022
00:40:51,990 --> 00:40:49,839
have you ever heard of the telepath of

1023
00:40:54,550 --> 00:40:52,000
communication with these with these

1024
00:40:58,790 --> 00:40:54,560
creatures or any other type of

1025
00:41:04,309 --> 00:41:00,950
not really

1026
00:41:07,349 --> 00:41:04,319
a few of the sightings in point pleasant

1027
00:41:10,230 --> 00:41:07,359
people stated that they felt like it was

1028
00:41:13,750 --> 00:41:10,240
communicating with them somehow

1029
00:41:17,750 --> 00:41:13,760
uh i have had other sightings

1030
00:41:20,309 --> 00:41:17,760
and encounters with similar type beings

1031
00:41:21,910 --> 00:41:20,319
where people have have noted that there

1032
00:41:23,349 --> 00:41:21,920
may possibly have been some type of

1033
00:41:25,670 --> 00:41:23,359
telepathic

1034
00:41:28,309 --> 00:41:25,680
or esp but

1035
00:41:29,910 --> 00:41:28,319
these sad things it doesn't really

1036
00:41:32,230 --> 00:41:29,920
seem to be that

1037
00:41:36,069 --> 00:41:32,240
so we were

1038
00:41:38,950 --> 00:41:36,079
talking off during the break

1039
00:41:40,309 --> 00:41:38,960
and uh you had mentioned the possibility

1040
00:41:43,829 --> 00:41:40,319
of some

1041
00:41:50,790 --> 00:41:48,390
and yeah yeah i i was told by another

1042
00:41:51,910 --> 00:41:50,800
researcher recently

1043
00:41:55,349 --> 00:41:51,920
that

1044
00:41:56,950 --> 00:41:55,359
these

1045
00:41:58,550 --> 00:41:56,960
this phenomenon has been going on in the

1046
00:42:00,309 --> 00:41:58,560
chicago area

1047
00:42:03,510 --> 00:42:00,319
there have been at least two sightings

1048
00:42:05,750 --> 00:42:03,520
of a similar being in the area around

1049
00:42:07,910 --> 00:42:05,760
milwaukee now

1050
00:42:09,670 --> 00:42:07,920
the the biggest difference with those

1051
00:42:11,030 --> 00:42:09,680
sightings are it seems that the being is

1052
00:42:14,230 --> 00:42:11,040
smaller

1053
00:42:15,510 --> 00:42:14,240
and the eyes are green

1054
00:42:21,109 --> 00:42:15,520
now

1055
00:42:24,150 --> 00:42:21,119
there

1056
00:42:26,230 --> 00:42:24,160
i'm just waiting to get information

1057
00:42:27,349 --> 00:42:26,240
from this researcher

1058
00:42:29,349 --> 00:42:27,359
uh

1059
00:42:31,109 --> 00:42:29,359
he's a well-known researcher so you know

1060
00:42:32,230 --> 00:42:31,119
it's somebody i trust somebody i trust

1061
00:42:34,630 --> 00:42:32,240
with

1062
00:42:36,150 --> 00:42:34,640
you know some of the investigations i do

1063
00:42:37,030 --> 00:42:36,160
but uh

1064
00:42:38,950 --> 00:42:37,040
you know

1065
00:42:41,750 --> 00:42:38,960
there's really not a whole lot right now

1066
00:42:44,950 --> 00:42:41,760
to give us any idea what this is

1067
00:42:46,950 --> 00:42:44,960
at least that what i know of

1068
00:42:48,870 --> 00:42:46,960
right it's interesting for for us here

1069
00:42:51,349 --> 00:42:48,880
because you know we had that bad squatch

1070
00:42:52,150 --> 00:42:51,359
thing like we were discussing before

1071
00:42:54,390 --> 00:42:52,160
uh

1072
00:42:57,190 --> 00:42:54,400
like you said in lacrosse and in that

1073
00:43:01,990 --> 00:42:59,510
and uh

1074
00:43:04,470 --> 00:43:02,000
you know milwaukee's only what

1075
00:43:07,670 --> 00:43:04,480
uh like 90 minutes

1076
00:43:09,510 --> 00:43:07,680
north of chicago i mean

1077
00:43:11,270 --> 00:43:09,520
when you look at uh

1078
00:43:13,349 --> 00:43:11,280
you know the globe from space at

1079
00:43:17,109 --> 00:43:13,359
nighttime it looks like one big city you

1080
00:43:18,470 --> 00:43:17,119
know that whole southern uh

1081
00:43:20,230 --> 00:43:18,480
michigan

1082
00:43:21,270 --> 00:43:20,240
you know all the lights and everything i

1083
00:43:22,630 --> 00:43:21,280
mean

1084
00:43:24,309 --> 00:43:22,640
because once you leave milwaukee it's

1085
00:43:26,950 --> 00:43:24,319
just we're seeing kenosha and bam you're

1086
00:43:29,109 --> 00:43:26,960
into chicago so uh

1087
00:43:32,790 --> 00:43:29,119
kind of all connected

1088
00:43:34,069 --> 00:43:32,800
i can see where it's possible

1089
00:43:36,230 --> 00:43:34,079
being so close

1090
00:43:38,150 --> 00:43:36,240
there might be a relationship i i don't

1091
00:43:40,630 --> 00:43:38,160
know you know the fact that they're both

1092
00:43:42,790 --> 00:43:40,640
on the lake may have uh

1093
00:43:44,470 --> 00:43:42,800
might be some connection but other than

1094
00:43:45,349 --> 00:43:44,480
that i really don't know

1095
00:43:47,430 --> 00:43:45,359
well

1096
00:43:49,270 --> 00:43:47,440
that's we've we've mentioned a couple

1097
00:43:51,030 --> 00:43:49,280
times now the

1098
00:43:52,550 --> 00:43:51,040
the first time was with the river and

1099
00:43:53,990 --> 00:43:52,560
now with the lake

1100
00:43:56,150 --> 00:43:54,000
do you think there could be an aquatic

1101
00:43:57,750 --> 00:43:56,160
connection of some type

1102
00:43:59,750 --> 00:43:57,760
it's possible

1103
00:44:02,790 --> 00:43:59,760
uh some of the sightings have been along

1104
00:44:05,510 --> 00:44:02,800
some of the smaller rivers and along the

1105
00:44:06,710 --> 00:44:05,520
chicago river and its tributaries

1106
00:44:08,470 --> 00:44:06,720
and of course there have been some

1107
00:44:09,990 --> 00:44:08,480
sightings out on the lake or on the

1108
00:44:11,750 --> 00:44:10,000
lakeshore

1109
00:44:13,829 --> 00:44:11,760
yeah i believe there may be some

1110
00:44:14,950 --> 00:44:13,839
connections somehow like i mentioned

1111
00:44:16,710 --> 00:44:14,960
earlier

1112
00:44:19,030 --> 00:44:16,720
uh

1113
00:44:20,829 --> 00:44:19,040
there's supposedly been portals seen or

1114
00:44:23,670 --> 00:44:20,839
portals producing

1115
00:44:27,270 --> 00:44:23,680
manifestations in the past

1116
00:44:29,349 --> 00:44:27,280
uh out in out in the uh lake michigan so

1117
00:44:33,430 --> 00:44:29,359
i you know is this part of that it very

1118
00:44:36,710 --> 00:44:34,630
so

1119
00:44:39,829 --> 00:44:36,720
of all the the reports

1120
00:44:41,190 --> 00:44:39,839
what was the closest sighting as far as

1121
00:44:43,510 --> 00:44:41,200
like

1122
00:44:47,030 --> 00:44:43,520
distance between the person and

1123
00:44:50,870 --> 00:44:48,470
uh

1124
00:44:54,950 --> 00:44:50,880
probably

1125
00:45:03,510 --> 00:44:58,470
that was on the lake on the lakeshore

1126
00:45:08,470 --> 00:45:05,430
let um see

1127
00:45:10,390 --> 00:45:08,480
i'm gonna try to pull it up here

1128
00:45:14,069 --> 00:45:10,400
this was um

1129
00:45:16,390 --> 00:45:14,079
this happened on saturday may the 27th

1130
00:45:17,510 --> 00:45:16,400
at north wrightwood avenue in north

1131
00:45:19,750 --> 00:45:17,520
lakeview

1132
00:45:22,550 --> 00:45:19,760
avenue a couple

1133
00:45:24,390 --> 00:45:22,560
and noticed um

1134
00:45:26,550 --> 00:45:24,400
and this was in the evening

1135
00:45:29,270 --> 00:45:26,560
there's a couple i noticed

1136
00:45:32,150 --> 00:45:29,280
something large approximately

1137
00:45:33,750 --> 00:45:32,160
15 foot in the air and moving along at a

1138
00:45:35,589 --> 00:45:33,760
brisk pace

1139
00:45:40,150 --> 00:45:35,599
it looked like a giant bat only it was

1140
00:45:43,589 --> 00:45:41,910
it would have been solid black if it

1141
00:45:46,150 --> 00:45:43,599
weren't for the two glowing red eyes

1142
00:45:48,309 --> 00:45:46,160
staring back at the witnesses and when

1143
00:45:50,950 --> 00:45:48,319
this thing went over them

1144
00:45:53,589 --> 00:45:50,960
it actually looked back at them

1145
00:45:56,230 --> 00:45:53,599
it tilted its head looked back

1146
00:46:00,630 --> 00:45:58,309
it circled back

1147
00:46:01,750 --> 00:46:00,640
and flew right towards them

1148
00:46:04,470 --> 00:46:01,760
and then

1149
00:46:06,870 --> 00:46:04,480
went flew up before it got to him

1150
00:46:09,030 --> 00:46:06,880
um

1151
00:46:10,550 --> 00:46:09,040
the husband actually said

1152
00:46:13,030 --> 00:46:10,560
he mentioned that

1153
00:46:15,430 --> 00:46:13,040
it was not something of this world and

1154
00:46:17,270 --> 00:46:15,440
if it was it was undiscovered

1155
00:46:19,030 --> 00:46:17,280
they actually waited about a month to

1156
00:46:21,990 --> 00:46:19,040
report it um

1157
00:46:24,230 --> 00:46:22,000
they were so freaked out by uh the we

1158
00:46:26,230 --> 00:46:24,240
had a sighting

1159
00:46:29,030 --> 00:46:26,240
not long

1160
00:46:31,430 --> 00:46:29,040
after that

1161
00:46:35,270 --> 00:46:31,440
near the um

1162
00:46:38,390 --> 00:46:35,280
well this was june 17 near the navy pier

1163
00:46:39,910 --> 00:46:38,400
and uh between ohio street beach and the

1164
00:46:42,390 --> 00:46:39,920
navy period

1165
00:46:44,390 --> 00:46:42,400
it's about seven o'clock p.m

1166
00:46:45,750 --> 00:46:44,400
so there was dusk but it was still light

1167
00:46:47,750 --> 00:46:45,760
out

1168
00:46:48,790 --> 00:46:47,760
and this jogger

1169
00:46:51,190 --> 00:46:48,800
saw

1170
00:46:53,430 --> 00:46:51,200
this giant bat

1171
00:46:56,470 --> 00:46:53,440
from there it came out from underneath

1172
00:46:59,349 --> 00:46:56,480
the bridge at north lake shore drive and

1173
00:47:02,309 --> 00:46:59,359
that's the bridge i mentioned before

1174
00:47:03,829 --> 00:47:02,319
and it flew compared to the east grand

1175
00:47:05,990 --> 00:47:03,839
avenue and then up and over the trees

1176
00:47:08,710 --> 00:47:06,000
toward the water treatment plant but

1177
00:47:10,950 --> 00:47:08,720
this thing was only about 15 to 20 foot

1178
00:47:12,870 --> 00:47:10,960
away from the witness

1179
00:47:14,870 --> 00:47:12,880
uh same description

1180
00:47:16,790 --> 00:47:14,880
basically as the others

1181
00:47:18,230 --> 00:47:16,800
so those were probably the closest but i

1182
00:47:20,630 --> 00:47:18,240
mean it has

1183
00:47:26,150 --> 00:47:20,640
it has gotten within 50 feet of several

1184
00:47:31,510 --> 00:47:28,550
you know if if this were not

1185
00:47:33,030 --> 00:47:31,520
interventional or yeah interdimensional

1186
00:47:35,190 --> 00:47:33,040
being

1187
00:47:37,430 --> 00:47:35,200
it would have to hide somewhere

1188
00:47:40,630 --> 00:47:37,440
or reside somewhere

1189
00:47:42,550 --> 00:47:40,640
and uh yeah i guess chicago's you know

1190
00:47:45,750 --> 00:47:42,560
chicago is massive

1191
00:47:47,990 --> 00:47:45,760
in abandoned buildings uh

1192
00:47:48,950 --> 00:47:48,000
water sewers

1193
00:47:50,550 --> 00:47:48,960
uh

1194
00:47:52,150 --> 00:47:50,560
you know

1195
00:47:53,670 --> 00:47:52,160
i could

1196
00:47:56,150 --> 00:47:53,680
but you would figure it with that many

1197
00:47:58,630 --> 00:47:56,160
people down there you know and that

1198
00:48:00,630 --> 00:47:58,640
like you said there are probably so many

1199
00:48:01,589 --> 00:48:00,640
people or at least as many people that

1200
00:48:04,309 --> 00:48:01,599
because that's what we see that in

1201
00:48:05,190 --> 00:48:04,319
paranormal in general where for you know

1202
00:48:07,030 --> 00:48:05,200
um

1203
00:48:08,790 --> 00:48:07,040
not everybody will report what they've

1204
00:48:10,710 --> 00:48:08,800
seen to other people

1205
00:48:13,829 --> 00:48:10,720
you know many people will keep it to

1206
00:48:15,510 --> 00:48:13,839
themselves just if you're a ridicule or

1207
00:48:17,030 --> 00:48:15,520
because they have chosen in their own

1208
00:48:19,349 --> 00:48:17,040
mind to

1209
00:48:21,670 --> 00:48:19,359
debunk it in some way

1210
00:48:23,750 --> 00:48:21,680
you know um

1211
00:48:25,589 --> 00:48:23,760
well we had a um

1212
00:48:27,750 --> 00:48:25,599
we had a sighting at the out of the

1213
00:48:28,870 --> 00:48:27,760
planetarium

1214
00:48:30,390 --> 00:48:28,880
uh

1215
00:48:33,270 --> 00:48:30,400
where the witness

1216
00:48:35,030 --> 00:48:33,280
the those couple witnesses

1217
00:48:36,870 --> 00:48:35,040
were together who mentioned that this

1218
00:48:39,589 --> 00:48:36,880
thing flew

1219
00:48:41,829 --> 00:48:39,599
across the uh adler planetarium out

1220
00:48:43,990 --> 00:48:41,839
across through the lake

1221
00:48:46,230 --> 00:48:44,000
and uh

1222
00:48:48,950 --> 00:48:46,240
they said there were almost 30 witnesses

1223
00:48:50,630 --> 00:48:48,960
there who had mentioned it and were

1224
00:48:53,430 --> 00:48:50,640
watching this thing

1225
00:48:56,470 --> 00:48:53,440
but we had only received the one uh the

1226
00:48:59,030 --> 00:48:56,480
one witness report but then a week later

1227
00:49:00,790 --> 00:48:59,040
someone else came forward and it was

1228
00:49:03,030 --> 00:49:00,800
telling us that uh

1229
00:49:04,470 --> 00:49:03,040
they had seen the same thing they

1230
00:49:06,069 --> 00:49:04,480
mentioned the same date time and

1231
00:49:08,309 --> 00:49:06,079
everything but

1232
00:49:09,910 --> 00:49:08,319
when they s they mentioned got a little

1233
00:49:11,270 --> 00:49:09,920
more detail saying it was actually

1234
00:49:13,349 --> 00:49:11,280
flying

1235
00:49:14,870 --> 00:49:13,359
from the atom the other planetarium

1236
00:49:17,510 --> 00:49:14,880
which was actually

1237
00:49:18,790 --> 00:49:17,520
on a peninsula outside into the lake was

1238
00:49:21,190 --> 00:49:18,800
flying

1239
00:49:22,710 --> 00:49:21,200
towards soldier stadium which is on the

1240
00:49:24,230 --> 00:49:22,720
lakeshore

1241
00:49:26,870 --> 00:49:24,240
and and

1242
00:49:29,430 --> 00:49:26,880
then it turned around and came back over

1243
00:49:31,750 --> 00:49:29,440
at the planetarium so you know that was

1244
00:49:33,349 --> 00:49:31,760
that was a verifiable

1245
00:49:36,870 --> 00:49:33,359
sighting there

1246
00:49:38,790 --> 00:49:36,880
so um you know you know we have had

1247
00:49:41,349 --> 00:49:38,800
other people that reported

1248
00:49:42,470 --> 00:49:41,359
the same sighting before uh one other

1249
00:49:45,349 --> 00:49:42,480
instance

1250
00:49:47,510 --> 00:49:45,359
uh the one in lincoln park

1251
00:49:48,549 --> 00:49:47,520
um so

1252
00:49:50,069 --> 00:49:48,559
you know

1253
00:49:52,470 --> 00:49:50,079
people are saying and i mean there are

1254
00:49:54,309 --> 00:49:52,480
groups of people that are seeing it

1255
00:49:55,589 --> 00:49:54,319
it's just a matter of people reporting

1256
00:50:00,150 --> 00:49:55,599
it

1257
00:50:02,069 --> 00:50:00,160
manifesting now

1258
00:50:04,390 --> 00:50:02,079
you may still get reports from people

1259
00:50:06,069 --> 00:50:04,400
eventually changing their minds saying

1260
00:50:10,470 --> 00:50:06,079
yeah

1261
00:50:12,470 --> 00:50:10,480
get a few more reports of people who

1262
00:50:14,549 --> 00:50:12,480
are debating with themselves and others

1263
00:50:16,230 --> 00:50:14,559
if they're going to report it

1264
00:50:17,750 --> 00:50:16,240
you know and speaking of which you know

1265
00:50:21,030 --> 00:50:17,760
you got the

1266
00:50:23,910 --> 00:50:22,950
and

1267
00:50:28,470 --> 00:50:23,920
they're not

1268
00:50:31,589 --> 00:50:28,480
uh i guess helping the situation

1269
00:50:33,349 --> 00:50:31,599
i i don't hear them reporting on it

1270
00:50:35,750 --> 00:50:33,359
uh

1271
00:50:37,430 --> 00:50:35,760
and and are there is there anybody

1272
00:50:42,790 --> 00:50:37,440
besides

1273
00:50:46,150 --> 00:50:45,190
i was told i was told wednesday night

1274
00:50:47,990 --> 00:50:46,160
that

1275
00:50:49,829 --> 00:50:48,000
one of the uh

1276
00:50:52,630 --> 00:50:49,839
the news channels in chicago had

1277
00:50:54,950 --> 00:50:52,640
mentioned something of the sightings

1278
00:50:58,470 --> 00:50:54,960
uh several of the radio stations in the

1279
00:50:59,910 --> 00:50:58,480
chicago area have been posting

1280
00:51:03,109 --> 00:50:59,920
some of the re some of the citing

1281
00:51:04,630 --> 00:51:03,119
reports on their websites

1282
00:51:07,829 --> 00:51:04,640
uh

1283
00:51:11,430 --> 00:51:07,839
but quite frankly i i'd rather not did

1284
00:51:15,190 --> 00:51:11,440
we i'd rather than not report it because

1285
00:51:17,670 --> 00:51:15,200
i i i just don't need copycats

1286
00:51:18,870 --> 00:51:17,680
contacting me about sightings you know

1287
00:51:20,870 --> 00:51:18,880
you're right

1288
00:51:23,510 --> 00:51:20,880
when the general public starts getting

1289
00:51:26,150 --> 00:51:23,520
reports from the news media

1290
00:51:28,069 --> 00:51:26,160
uh uh there you always got a chance of

1291
00:51:30,390 --> 00:51:28,079
somebody

1292
00:51:32,549 --> 00:51:30,400
you know copycat reports or people

1293
00:51:33,750 --> 00:51:32,559
thinking they're seeing things

1294
00:51:38,950 --> 00:51:33,760
you know

1295
00:51:41,109 --> 00:51:38,960
it be

1296
00:51:42,870 --> 00:51:41,119
impulse sightings where people have

1297
00:51:45,109 --> 00:51:42,880
actually seen something

1298
00:51:46,950 --> 00:51:45,119
and feel like they need to contact us

1299
00:51:48,870 --> 00:51:46,960
you know i don't need a thousand

1300
00:51:50,549 --> 00:51:48,880
sightings to understand that this thing

1301
00:51:52,630 --> 00:51:50,559
is going on

1302
00:51:54,309 --> 00:51:52,640
uh so

1303
00:51:56,230 --> 00:51:54,319
that's a good thing i mean

1304
00:51:57,030 --> 00:51:56,240
yeah i'm happy with what we're getting

1305
00:52:00,150 --> 00:51:57,040
now

1306
00:52:02,390 --> 00:52:00,160
yeah you're right in fact uh

1307
00:52:05,030 --> 00:52:02,400
yeah because because uh

1308
00:52:07,109 --> 00:52:05,040
that's that's a very good point

1309
00:52:08,870 --> 00:52:07,119
we got a couple minutes left uh let's

1310
00:52:10,549 --> 00:52:08,880
call your books

1311
00:52:15,030 --> 00:52:10,559
you have books

1312
00:52:19,349 --> 00:52:17,190
how many books do you have

1313
00:52:22,309 --> 00:52:19,359
this is my first i've got five out right

1314
00:52:24,549 --> 00:52:22,319
now um can you tell us i call i call it

1315
00:52:27,030 --> 00:52:24,559
the encounter series

1316
00:52:29,430 --> 00:52:27,040
um the phantoms and monsters encounter

1317
00:52:31,829 --> 00:52:29,440
series and basically

1318
00:52:33,750 --> 00:52:31,839
the books include sightings that people

1319
00:52:36,309 --> 00:52:33,760
report to me and

1320
00:52:38,470 --> 00:52:36,319
some of my investigations and

1321
00:52:41,990 --> 00:52:38,480
the last book contained a few vintage

1322
00:52:45,430 --> 00:52:42,000
investigations vintage sightings

1323
00:52:47,670 --> 00:52:45,440
plus some follow-ups to sightings i

1324
00:52:48,630 --> 00:52:47,680
investigations and research that i have

1325
00:52:50,549 --> 00:52:48,640
done

1326
00:52:54,309 --> 00:52:50,559
the next book

1327
00:52:55,990 --> 00:52:54,319
which i am working on is going to

1328
00:52:58,790 --> 00:52:56,000
include these

1329
00:53:02,630 --> 00:52:58,800
this new information

1330
00:53:04,870 --> 00:53:02,640
with the sightings in chicago and other

1331
00:53:08,069 --> 00:53:04,880
what i call

1332
00:53:10,309 --> 00:53:08,079
extra dimensional beams

1333
00:53:13,270 --> 00:53:10,319
so um

1334
00:53:17,109 --> 00:53:13,280
it's going to run the gamut as far as

1335
00:53:19,190 --> 00:53:17,119
different types of beings that i believe

1336
00:53:20,710 --> 00:53:19,200
are

1337
00:53:22,470 --> 00:53:20,720
not of this

1338
00:53:25,030 --> 00:53:22,480
plane but from

1339
00:53:26,870 --> 00:53:25,040
somewhere else coming to this earthly

1340
00:53:29,510 --> 00:53:26,880
and that includes some type of alien

1341
00:53:32,069 --> 00:53:29,520
some type of other type of humanoids

1342
00:53:33,910 --> 00:53:32,079
and other anomalies

1343
00:53:36,790 --> 00:53:33,920
so i'm in the process of putting all

1344
00:53:40,790 --> 00:53:36,800
that together now

1345
00:53:44,150 --> 00:53:42,790
one of our like pages is paratrooper

1346
00:53:45,670 --> 00:53:44,160
zoology

1347
00:53:47,990 --> 00:53:45,680
and uh

1348
00:53:49,750 --> 00:53:48,000
just the idea that they're gonna be uh

1349
00:53:51,510 --> 00:53:49,760
some of these cryptids have powers or

1350
00:53:53,109 --> 00:53:51,520
abilities that humans simply don't

1351
00:53:54,630 --> 00:53:53,119
possess

1352
00:53:57,190 --> 00:53:54,640
um

1353
00:53:59,910 --> 00:53:57,200
and and and that could be

1354
00:54:01,589 --> 00:53:59,920
something as simple as either going

1355
00:54:03,510 --> 00:54:01,599
invisible by

1356
00:54:05,030 --> 00:54:03,520
changing its vibration to

1357
00:54:07,910 --> 00:54:05,040
go into portals

1358
00:54:09,990 --> 00:54:07,920
or or you know um

1359
00:54:11,829 --> 00:54:10,000
you know we have snakes and you know

1360
00:54:13,589 --> 00:54:11,839
until recently did

1361
00:54:14,790 --> 00:54:13,599
were we even aware of what thermal

1362
00:54:16,630 --> 00:54:14,800
vision was

1363
00:54:18,069 --> 00:54:16,640
you know and adhered to things that the

1364
00:54:20,470 --> 00:54:18,079
animals have been existing the whole

1365
00:54:22,549 --> 00:54:20,480
time that see thermal vision

1366
00:54:23,589 --> 00:54:22,559
or the idea that like a hammer with

1367
00:54:25,349 --> 00:54:23,599
shark

1368
00:54:26,790 --> 00:54:25,359
identify a battery buried under the

1369
00:54:28,470 --> 00:54:26,800
ocean

1370
00:54:31,510 --> 00:54:28,480
because of its its

1371
00:54:34,390 --> 00:54:31,520
magnetic sensors on its head

1372
00:54:35,430 --> 00:54:34,400
never you know uh

1373
00:54:39,190 --> 00:54:35,440
there are so many things that are

1374
00:54:44,710 --> 00:54:42,309
yeah i mean i i believe

1375
00:54:46,150 --> 00:54:44,720
i believe cryptid sightings for the most

1376
00:54:48,870 --> 00:54:46,160
part

1377
00:54:50,790 --> 00:54:48,880
uh talking about beings that there's no

1378
00:54:52,150 --> 00:54:50,800
real scientific

1379
00:54:54,549 --> 00:54:52,160
uh

1380
00:54:57,270 --> 00:54:54,559
knowledge of who or what they are but

1381
00:54:59,109 --> 00:54:57,280
people have seen them for centuries

1382
00:55:02,230 --> 00:54:59,119
uh bigfoot

1383
00:55:04,790 --> 00:55:02,240
upper right canines

1384
00:55:08,630 --> 00:55:04,800
flying beings unknown other type of

1385
00:55:12,549 --> 00:55:10,630
i believe uh

1386
00:55:15,030 --> 00:55:12,559
a lot of those are

1387
00:55:18,069 --> 00:55:15,040
extra uh dimensional beings extra

1388
00:55:21,349 --> 00:55:18,079
dimensional type humanoids

1389
00:55:22,870 --> 00:55:21,359
so um

1390
00:55:24,390 --> 00:55:22,880
you know i'm not going to include every

1391
00:55:26,710 --> 00:55:24,400
i'm not going to include a whole bunch

1392
00:55:29,030 --> 00:55:26,720
of big foot and upright canine sidings

1393
00:55:30,390 --> 00:55:29,040
in his next book but i am going to

1394
00:55:34,230 --> 00:55:30,400
include some

1395
00:55:37,910 --> 00:55:34,240
other oddball other unexplained type of

1396
00:55:43,990 --> 00:55:40,790
where can people find your stuff

1397
00:55:45,990 --> 00:55:44,000
well the books are all on amazon

1398
00:55:48,069 --> 00:55:46,000
all you got to do is search my name lawn

1399
00:55:49,510 --> 00:55:48,079
strickler or search phantoms and

1400
00:55:52,230 --> 00:55:49,520
monsters

1401
00:55:53,750 --> 00:55:52,240
and they'll all come up they're in uh

1402
00:55:56,069 --> 00:55:53,760
book form or

1403
00:55:59,349 --> 00:55:56,079
in kindle

1404
00:56:02,470 --> 00:55:59,359
and the blog is phantomsomemonsters.com

1405
00:56:04,069 --> 00:56:02,480
if you go to the blog and it i tried to

1406
00:56:05,510 --> 00:56:04,079
post daily

1407
00:56:06,870 --> 00:56:05,520
uh uh

1408
00:56:09,190 --> 00:56:06,880
if you want to get the dailies

1409
00:56:11,510 --> 00:56:09,200
newsletter if you go to the right hand

1410
00:56:13,109 --> 00:56:11,520
column and scroll down a bit

1411
00:56:15,190 --> 00:56:13,119
there's a module there for you to put

1412
00:56:16,069 --> 00:56:15,200
your email address in and you'll get the

1413
00:56:21,190 --> 00:56:16,079
um

1414
00:56:24,390 --> 00:56:22,309
all right

1415
00:56:25,589 --> 00:56:24,400
and yeah uh we encourage everyone to go

1416
00:56:27,030 --> 00:56:25,599
check that out

1417
00:56:34,789 --> 00:56:27,040
uh

1418
00:56:36,789 --> 00:56:34,799
um some of your articles phantom and

1419
00:56:39,829 --> 00:56:36,799
mobs

1420
00:56:42,549 --> 00:56:39,839
just because they're good we enjoy

1421
00:56:44,069 --> 00:56:42,559
i appreciate that

1422
00:56:45,430 --> 00:56:44,079
we appreciate you coming on tonight as

1423
00:56:48,390 --> 00:56:45,440
well

1424
00:56:50,630 --> 00:56:48,400
thank you so much that's no problem

1425
00:56:52,870 --> 00:56:50,640
thanks for having me yes thank you so

1426
00:56:54,789 --> 00:56:52,880
much it was such an honor and it was

1427
00:56:57,589 --> 00:56:54,799
such fun having you on

1428
00:57:00,549 --> 00:56:57,599
and everybody in chat is just just super

1429
00:57:02,470 --> 00:57:00,559
excited about it thank you so much

1430
00:57:05,109 --> 00:57:02,480
you take care and uh

1431
00:57:08,150 --> 00:57:05,119
maybe we'll talk again

1432
00:57:09,589 --> 00:57:08,160
sounds good i'm good

1433
00:57:11,510 --> 00:57:09,599
so next week

1434
00:57:13,589 --> 00:57:11,520
uh we have

1435
00:57:14,710 --> 00:57:13,599
scott mardis and william

1436
00:57:16,150 --> 00:57:14,720
during

1437
00:57:17,990 --> 00:57:16,160
it's just

1438
00:57:19,349 --> 00:57:18,000
oh i did it again

1439
00:57:20,870 --> 00:57:19,359
um they're coming out next week the

1440
00:57:22,710 --> 00:57:20,880
cryptozoologist

1441
00:57:27,109 --> 00:57:22,720
uh

1442
00:57:28,950 --> 00:57:27,119
lake champlain

1443
00:57:30,230 --> 00:57:28,960
uh for champ this summer and we're going

1444
00:57:32,789 --> 00:57:30,240
to talk to them about some of the stuff